[dnssec-deployment] A comment on hotel service

[Steve Crocker]

Michael,

Your web page is nice!  I can see you're way ahead of me.

All,

These responses have been illuminating.  FWIW, my thinking on this is  
now a little more specific.

1. I continue to think it would be useful to have a downloadable  
package that lots of people could choose to run.  The people I would  
have in mind are road warriors who want to do two things when they  
connect online in a hotel:

a. Find out what works and what doesn't work, expressed in terms they  
can understand.  (That is, many people who spend a lot of time in  
hotels will only understand the external properties, not the innards,  
of the services they're experiencing.)

b. Send back to a central collection site the information about the  
hotel as a way of  contributing to the overall knowledge of what  
hotels are providing.

2. The test suite can test multiple properties, e.g. DNS cleanliness,  
IPv6 connectivity, bandwidth, etc.  I strongly recommend these tests  
be modularized and reported separately.  Ideally, there should not be  
too many distinct things being tested or this will get out of hand.

3. The collection and reporting should be completely automatic.

It may be desirable to also allow each individual to add anecdotal  
comments if he/she wishes to, but that should be optional.  I think  
quite a lot of the impact will come from the fact the data is being  
collected by a bunch of people instead of just one traveler.

I would also expect some hotels will change their service over time,  
and the reporting process should highlight this when it happens.   
This can evolve as we collect data.

4. Even though we might dislike Windows, it's still the dominant  
operating system.  If we don't provide a test suite that works  
seamlessly and nicely with Windows, we will be giving up a lot of  
information.

Perhaps it will not be possible to run all of the tests or as  
complete a test from Windows as from Linux.  It will still be  
valuable to have those data points.


Steve








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On May 7, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:

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> I agree. This is what I do...
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> http://www.sandelman.ca/mcr/hotels/
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> I should change this to a wiki page somewhere.
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>>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com> writes:
>     Steve> I've recommended something like this be done when we  
> look at
>     Steve> hotels as possible meetings sites for IETF, ICANN or other
>     Steve> meetings, but the idea could be expanded more fully.  If  
> the
>     Steve> tests were packaged up to be easy to run, I'll bet lots of
>     Steve> people would run them and we'd quickly gather lots of data.
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>   Since most of the tests are hard to run from windows, I would  
> suggest
> that anyone doing this consider a qemu boot of "damn small linux" to
> easily package them.
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