[dnssec-deployment] A comment on hotel service
steve at shinkuro.com
Mon May 7 12:34:01 EDT 2007
Your web page is nice! I can see you're way ahead of me.
These responses have been illuminating. FWIW, my thinking on this is
now a little more specific.
1. I continue to think it would be useful to have a downloadable
package that lots of people could choose to run. The people I would
have in mind are road warriors who want to do two things when they
connect online in a hotel:
a. Find out what works and what doesn't work, expressed in terms they
can understand. (That is, many people who spend a lot of time in
hotels will only understand the external properties, not the innards,
of the services they're experiencing.)
b. Send back to a central collection site the information about the
hotel as a way of contributing to the overall knowledge of what
hotels are providing.
2. The test suite can test multiple properties, e.g. DNS cleanliness,
IPv6 connectivity, bandwidth, etc. I strongly recommend these tests
be modularized and reported separately. Ideally, there should not be
too many distinct things being tested or this will get out of hand.
3. The collection and reporting should be completely automatic.
It may be desirable to also allow each individual to add anecdotal
comments if he/she wishes to, but that should be optional. I think
quite a lot of the impact will come from the fact the data is being
collected by a bunch of people instead of just one traveler.
I would also expect some hotels will change their service over time,
and the reporting process should highlight this when it happens.
This can evolve as we collect data.
4. Even though we might dislike Windows, it's still the dominant
operating system. If we don't provide a test suite that works
seamlessly and nicely with Windows, we will be giving up a lot of
Perhaps it will not be possible to run all of the tests or as
complete a test from Windows as from Linux. It will still be
valuable to have those data points.
steve at shinkuro.com
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On May 7, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
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> I agree. This is what I do...
> I should change this to a wiki page somewhere.
>>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com> writes:
> Steve> I've recommended something like this be done when we
> look at
> Steve> hotels as possible meetings sites for IETF, ICANN or other
> Steve> meetings, but the idea could be expanded more fully. If
> Steve> tests were packaged up to be easy to run, I'll bet lots of
> Steve> people would run them and we'd quickly gather lots of data.
> Since most of the tests are hard to run from windows, I would
> that anyone doing this consider a qemu boot of "damn small linux" to
> easily package them.
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